Why a Law Firm Secretly Recording Client Conversations Is Wrong (and Illegal)
A law firm that has been recording client conversations without the clients' knowledge or permission and has threatened employees if they speak out faces legal and ethical challenges.
Profit and prosper with the best of Kiplinger's advice on investing, taxes, retirement, personal finance and much more. Delivered daily. Enter your email in the box and click Sign Me Up.
You are now subscribed
Your newsletter sign-up was successful
Want to add more newsletters?
Delivered daily
Kiplinger Today
Profit and prosper with the best of Kiplinger's advice on investing, taxes, retirement, personal finance and much more delivered daily. Smart money moves start here.
Sent five days a week
Kiplinger A Step Ahead
Get practical help to make better financial decisions in your everyday life, from spending to savings on top deals.
Delivered daily
Kiplinger Closing Bell
Get today's biggest financial and investing headlines delivered to your inbox every day the U.S. stock market is open.
Sent twice a week
Kiplinger Adviser Intel
Financial pros across the country share best practices and fresh tactics to preserve and grow your wealth.
Delivered weekly
Kiplinger Tax Tips
Trim your federal and state tax bills with practical tax-planning and tax-cutting strategies.
Sent twice a week
Kiplinger Retirement Tips
Your twice-a-week guide to planning and enjoying a financially secure and richly rewarding retirement
Sent bimonthly.
Kiplinger Adviser Angle
Insights for advisers, wealth managers and other financial professionals.
Sent twice a week
Kiplinger Investing Weekly
Your twice-a-week roundup of promising stocks, funds, companies and industries you should consider, ones you should avoid, and why.
Sent weekly for six weeks
Kiplinger Invest for Retirement
Your step-by-step six-part series on how to invest for retirement, from devising a successful strategy to exactly which investments to choose.
When you meet with your attorney and paralegal, the one thing that you can count on and don’t even give a second thought to is that your conversation will be confidential.
Indeed, the attorney-client privilege — confidentiality of attorney-client communications — is the bedrock of the legal profession.
Clients are able to disclose sensitive — often embarrassing information — without fear of it being revealed, which is vital to effective legal representation.
From just $107.88 $24.99 for Kiplinger Personal Finance
Become a smarter, better informed investor. Subscribe from just $107.88 $24.99, plus get up to 4 Special Issues
Sign up for Kiplinger’s Free Newsletters
Profit and prosper with the best of expert advice on investing, taxes, retirement, personal finance and more - straight to your e-mail.
Profit and prosper with the best of expert advice - straight to your e-mail.
(There are exceptions to the privilege. For example, when a client wants the lawyer's help in committing a crime or when disclosure is necessary to prevent imminent death or substantial bodily harm.)
The Kiplinger Building Wealth program handpicks financial advisers and business owners from around the world to share retirement, estate planning and tax strategies to preserve and grow your wealth. These experts, who never pay for inclusion on the site, include professional wealth managers, fiduciary financial planners, CPAs and lawyers. Most of them have certifications including CFP®, ChFC®, IAR, AIF®, CDFA® and more, and their stellar records can be checked through the SEC or FINRA.
Smile, you're being recorded (but no one told you)
What if, from the moment you enter your lawyer’s office, audio and video recordings are being made — without your knowledge or permission — of everything you say to the paralegals and attorneys? How would you feel?
These are not just academic questions. A credible source (she’s asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal) has told me that a local public services law firm that is partially government-funded is doing exactly that.
Additionally, as you will see, the lawyer responsible has created an atmosphere of fear — employees are afraid they’ll lose their jobs if they become whistleblowers.
The phone call
“Mr. Beaver,” my caller “Peggy” said, “I work for a non-profit law firm that provides free, civil legal services to low-income and older individuals. Several months ago, ‘Ivan’ was hired as our new managing partner. Within days, a place that we all enjoyed coming to was giving us ulcers. An atmosphere of fear, suspicion and paranoia has become part of everyday life, and it began when he installed video/audio cameras just about everywhere.
“Even though we hardly ever needed to call the police because of an unruly client, Ivan sent a note to everyone stating, ‘For safety, all staff must conduct meetings with clients and applicants in designated intake rooms monitored by security cameras that facilitate our ability to protect everyone during in-person contacts.’
“The lawyers and paralegals all know that eavesdropping on or recording clients without posting signs informing them of the video and audio recordings — and obtaining their consent — violates the law. None of us has ever been in a situation like this in our many years of working as paralegals and attorneys.”
As Peggy related, several of the firms’ attorneys and senior paralegals objected, pointing out to Ivan that in California — a two-party state — all parties must agree to the recording/video, or Penal Code 632 is violated, and that can lead to criminal penalties, including fines of up to $2,500 and/or imprisonment for up to one year.
You want to keep your job? Then shut up
“Ivan sits at his desk,” Peggy went on, “and is glued to the computer screen, focused on monitoring client discussions with attorneys and paralegals. It is creepy.”
Then she read a threatening email Ivan sent “To Staff.”
I have seen this email. Paraphrased, Ivan wrote, While I’ve heard about privacy and cameras, those things aren’t important compared to the prospect of losing one’s employment, financial stability and ability to provide food and shelter for our families.
“This was a clear threat to keep quiet,” Peggy told me, “and we are worried. We do not know what he might do. What do you advise?”
Ethical obligations of the law firm's attorneys
I ran this troubling situation by an attorney with the State Bar of California’s Ethics Hotline. She said, “This conduct exposes the attorney to multiple counts of violating Penal Code Section 632, in addition to being sued civilly for invasion of privacy by anyone recorded without permission.”
Looking for expert tips to grow and preserve your wealth? Sign up for Building Wealth, our free, twice-weekly newsletter.
She also pointed out a number of apparent violations of state bar rules that could land Ivan in hot water, including threatening the employees’ jobs.
The Ethics Hotline attorney also pointed out something that the attorneys in this firm now must do — they must report what’s going on to the State Bar of California. (The firm has since been reported to law enforcement.)
California's 'snitch law'
While all other states have for years required reporting misconduct by fellow attorneys to the appropriate authorities, California passed into law this bit of common sense only a little over two years ago.
The “snitch law” says that attorneys must report, to the state bar or other relevant authorities, fellow attorneys who have engaged in misconduct that includes criminal acts, conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or reckless misrepresentation, misappropriation of funds or property and any other conduct raising substantial questions about the lawyer's honesty, trustworthiness or fitness to practice law.
This means that the attorney employees at this public service law firm have a duty to contact the State Bar of California and disclose what’s going on or themselves face discipline for failing to do so.
Clients want to trust their attorneys. In my decades of law practice, this is the first time I’ve ever heard anything like this. It is scary.
If falling into the wrong hands, these recordings could be the basis of extortion, tearing families apart, getting someone fired — the improper and illegal use of private, attorney/client communications threatens our very legal system.
Update: "Peggy" reported to me that "Ivan" sent an email to staff on Wednesday, the day after this article ran, that said that all cameras were being removed from the office that day. Peggy added, "Thank you very much for the assistance, your research and article!"
Dennis Beaver practices law in Bakersfield, Calif., and welcomes comments and questions from readers, which may be faxed to (661) 323-7993, or e-mailed to Lagombeaver1@gmail.com. And be sure to visit dennisbeaver.com.
Related Content
- Seven Ways to Be an Absolute Jerk as a Lawyer
- For Lawyers, the Bar Exam Is More Than Just a Test
- Five Things to Notice in Your Lawyer’s Bill
- Six Things Not to Do if You Want to Resolve a Conflict
- We Took Them in After the Fire, and Now They Won't Leave
Profit and prosper with the best of Kiplinger's advice on investing, taxes, retirement, personal finance and much more. Delivered daily. Enter your email in the box and click Sign Me Up.

After attending Loyola University School of Law, H. Dennis Beaver joined California's Kern County District Attorney's Office, where he established a Consumer Fraud section. He is in the general practice of law and writes a syndicated newspaper column, You and the Law. Through his column, he offers readers in need of down-to-earth advice his help free of charge. "I know it sounds corny, but I just love to be able to use my education and experience to help, simply to help. When a reader contacts me, it is a gift."
-
Nasdaq Leads a Rocky Risk-On Rally: Stock Market TodayAnother worrying bout of late-session weakness couldn't take down the main equity indexes on Wednesday.
-
Quiz: Do You Know How to Avoid the "Medigap Trap?"Quiz Test your basic knowledge of the "Medigap Trap" in our quick quiz.
-
5 Top Tax-Efficient Mutual Funds for Smarter InvestingMutual funds are many things, but "tax-friendly" usually isn't one of them. These are the exceptions.
-
Nasdaq Leads a Rocky Risk-On Rally: Stock Market TodayAnother worrying bout of late-session weakness couldn't take down the main equity indexes on Wednesday.
-
5 Top Tax-Efficient Mutual Funds for Smarter InvestingMutual funds are many things, but "tax-friendly" usually isn't one of them. These are the exceptions.
-
Why Invest In Mutual Funds When ETFs Exist?Exchange-traded funds are cheaper, more tax-efficient and more flexible. But don't put mutual funds out to pasture quite yet.
-
Social Security Break-Even Math Is Helpful, But Don't Let It Dictate When You'll FileYour Social Security break-even age tells you how long you'd need to live for delaying to pay off, but shouldn't be the sole basis for deciding when to claim.
-
I'm an Opportunity Zone Pro: This Is How to Deliver Roth-Like Tax-Free Growth (Without Contribution Limits)Investors who combine Roth IRAs, the gold standard of tax-free savings, with qualified opportunity funds could enjoy decades of tax-free growth.
-
One of the Most Powerful Wealth-Building Moves a Woman Can Make: A Midcareer PivotIf it feels like you can't sustain what you're doing for the next 20 years, it's time for an honest look at what's draining you and what energizes you.
-
Stocks Make More Big Up and Down Moves: Stock Market TodayThe impact of revolutionary technology has replaced world-changing trade policy as the major variable for markets, with mixed results for sectors and stocks.
-
I'm a Wealth Adviser Obsessed With Mahjong: Here Are 8 Ways It Can Teach Us How to Manage Our MoneyThis increasingly popular Chinese game can teach us not only how to help manage our money but also how important it is to connect with other people.