Bridgewater founder Ray Dalio has been sounding off about his concerns for the global economy and global future in general, ringing alarm bells that danger's afoot. He has been saying not only are we at risk of a recession, but of more disruption as a result of certain economic policies and other factors.
His comments come both online — he posted an essay to X, formerly known as Twitter, last week — and on television, as he spoke to NBC News' Meet the Press on Sunday. The 75-year-old has called on his listeners to look beyond the immediate shock of President Donald Trump's tariff announcements and see underlying factors that indicate instability.
"The far bigger, far more important thing to keep in mind is that we are seeing a classic breakdown of the major monetary, political, and geopolitical orders," Dalio wrote in his post on X. "This sort of breakdown occurs only about once in a lifetime, but they have happened many times in history when similar unsustainable conditions were in place."
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Dalio's predictions for the future and analysis of the present
Specifically, Dalio wrote, unsustainable conditions are a breaking down of...
- ...the "monetary/economic order" as a result of "too much existing debt" (i.e. the U.S. borrowing from China)
- ...political order due to rising inequities in opportunity and education
- ...geopolitical world order as the U.S. shifts to an "America-first" mentality
...as well as disruptive acts of nature, like floods and pandemics, and disruptive technology like AI.
Rather than looking at tariffs or Trump's election in a vacuum, he argues, it's part of a larger overall cycle in power and order (he explains the cycle concept further in his 2021 book Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order).
David Payne, staff economist for The Kiplinger Letter, has a more measured take in response to Dalio: "Yes, these are concerns. Yes, Trump is accelerating some of these issues. But doomsday predictions tend to undervalue strengths, such as the productiveness of the capitalist system and the U.S. economy."
Following up on his writing, Dalio said on Meet the Press he is "worried about something worse than a recession if this isn't handled well." The billionaire, who said during the 2024 election the country needed a more moderate leader than either candidate, said the U.S. should cut the federal deficit to 3% of gross domestic product, or otherwise "we're going to have a supply-demand problem for debt at the same time as we have these other problems, and the results of that will be worse than a normal recession."
Particularly last week as the stock market reacted to Trump's tariff announcement, experts said a recession is increasingly likely in the face of economic and market disruptions caused by Trump's trade stances.
"Worse than a recession" to Dalio could mean a devaluation of money, internal conflict threatening democracy, and international conflict that could turn violent. He referred to our current situation and its combination of factors, which he called "a decision-making point," as "very much like the 1930s."
Dalio's past thoughts on politics and Trump
These are not particularly new comments for the hedge fund powerhouse. During the 2024 presidential election, Dalio also expressed concerns for the future of the U.S.
While he refused to endorse either candidate, calling it in a Time essay a "choice between a strong, unethical, almost fascist Republican Party and a frail, untruthful, and enigmatic Democratic Party," he did say he was worried democracy would be at risk if Trump were to lose but reject the results.
Speaking more broadly, he told BBC last September: "This reminds me of the 1930 to 45 period in which there was an economic crisis followed by democracies becoming dictatorships. Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan had parliamentary systems, and they broke down in terms of internal conflict between the the hard left, the hard right, communism and fascism. We are today seeing modern day versions of some of these things."
Payne, the Kiplinger Letter staff economist, also sees echoes of the past, but with more optimism than Dalio.
"Adjustments will be made, and perhaps some GDP growth points foregone, but we've muddled through crises before," Payne said. He pointed to the tumult of the 1960s-70s between war, Nixon's resignation, gas prices and social change.
"The stock market was moribund for a long time," Payne continued. "But the turbulence subsided in the '80s, and technological progress continued, setting the stage for the growth surge of the '90s. Of course, some of that growth surge was the result of globalization, which has begun to reverse, but there is a still a lot of promising tech out there."
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