Is My Money Still Safe?
Here's what you need to know to protect your savings and investments.
By Joan Goldwasser, Senior Reporter
Kimberly Lankford, Contributing Editor
Pat Mertz Esswein, Associate Editor
From Kiplinger's Personal Finance magazine, October 2008
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As the financial panic of 2008 deepens, with markets in free fall and the economy at risk, it's instructive to remember the failure of IndyMac bank last summer. At first, nervous customers lined up to withdraw their money, unaware that their savings were insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. The panic subsided when the facts became known. Here are the facts now.
The good news: The FDIC has taken over 12 more banks since IndyMac's collapse without incident. And the $700 billion financial rescue plan signed into law Oct. 3 increases the insurance on most bank deposits from $100,00 to $250,000 per account. The bad news: Hundreds more banks are expected to fail before this financial crisis plays itself out. If you are worried about the safety of your money -- in banks or brokerages -- or money you’ve paid your mortgage servicer for taxes or insurance, here are answers to your pressing questions.
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Should I worry about the safety of my bank accounts? In most instances, your money is insured by the FDIC, which is backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, up to a limit of $250,000 at each bank. This new, higher limit is effective through December 31, 2009. Add up all the accounts in your name at a bank, including checking, savings and money-market accounts as well as certificates of deposit. If your funds total more than $250,000, move the excess to another bank.
My spouse and I have a joint checking account, and each of us has individual savings accounts at the same bank. How much insurance does each of us have? Each co-owner of a joint account has $250,000 in insurance, and your individual accounts are each insured for $250,000, for a total of $1,000,000 in this example.
If you want to shelter more cash, you can open revocable-trust or payable-on-death (POD) accounts for your spouse, children, grandchildren, siblings or almost anyone you desire. Each beneficiary’s account is insured up to $250,000. Or you can just move the excess cash to another bank.
My retirement-savings accounts are with my bank. What is the maximum coverage for them? Certain types of retirement accounts are covered by FDIC insurance, including IRAs, Roth IRAs, SEP IRAs and Keogh plans. All deposits in these types of accounts are added together and insured up to $250,000 per person. If you have both a regular and a Roth IRA, the assets would be added together and insured up to $250,000.
I bank at a credit union. Is my money insured? Yes. The National Credit Union Share Insurance Fund (NCUSIF), which was established by Congress and is backed by the U.S. government, insures individual accounts up to $250,000. As with FDIC insurance, a two-person joint account is insured up to $500,000.
Are my credit-union retirement accounts insured? Yes, the NCUSIF covers retirement accounts, too. The funds in traditional and Roth IRAs are added together and insured up to $250,000; Keogh accounts are insured separately up to $250,000. If you have both IRAs and a Keogh at your credit union, you can have a total of $500,000 in insured retirement assets.
I have a bank money-market account. Are those funds insured? Yes, but your money-market deposit account is lumped with all other accounts bearing your name, and together they are insured up to $250,000. Money that you keep in a money-market mutual fund may also be insured. The Treasury recently announced a temporary program to guarantee both taxable and tax-free money-market mutual funds if the fund pays the necessary fee to participate. This insurance program was created after the Prime Reserve Fund "broke the buck" and its share price dropped to 97 cents. It guarantees that money-market funds’ share price will not fluctuate -- that it will remain a constant $1.
If the FDIC takes over my bank, as it recently did with IndyMac Bank, how long will it take for me to have access to my money? IndyMac's depositors had continuous access to their funds through ATM and debit cards. After federal regulators seized the bank on a Friday, some customers did not have online or phone access for a weekend, but everyone had full access to all their insured money by Monday morning.




Reader Comments (22)
Posted by: Hawk at 09/17/2008 09:43:12 AM
Small note: If the bank goes into receivership (your examples were Indymac, 1st Nat. of Nevada and 1st Heritage of Newport Beach) the uninsured portion of cash may actually be lost. Because the recievers in the examples were well financed at the time, depositors were covered. If there is no receiver for a bank failure, FIDC will only cover the stated amounts (100K and 250K)...on co-depositors - I believe the unique group of depositors is covered for a total of 100K in the account, not each co-depositor for 100 K each in the same account.
Posted by: steve davis at 09/17/2008 09:09:07 PM
So what happens when all the FDIC funds dry up? Thats what I am worried about. BTW the FDIC only has funds to bail out Washington Mutual.
Posted by: Kim Lankford at 09/18/2008 07:02:36 AM
Hawk, thanks for your comments. This is Kim Lankford from Kiplinger's. I just wanted to answer your question about the rules for co-depositors. Each co-owner of a joint account has $100,000 in coverage. So if two people (or more) have a joint account, each one will have up to $100,000 in coverage on that money. Thanks for your interest!
Posted by: Joan Goldwasser at 09/18/2008 11:19:00 AM
Hi, this is Joan Goldwasser. I am the author if this story. In response to Hawk's comment, A husband and wife can each have an individual account worth $100,000 and each account is completely insured. They can also have a joint account worth $200,000 and those funds will also be completely insured by the FDIC. You can verify if your accounts are insured at the FDIC web site, www.fdic.gov by using EDIE, the Electronic Deposits Insurance Estimator. Hope this helps.
Posted by: Chrales Nitz at 09/18/2008 12:29:32 PM
How likely is it that, if there is a general run on banks in the US, that the FDIC and the NCUSIF (for credit unions) will actually have the resources to cover bank deposits? Each organization’s insured-to-asset ratios are disturbing. For example, the FDIC has $1 trillion of deposits to cover, and only $50 billion in assets. The ratio is similarly bad for the NCUSIF. What can the Federal government do if bank runs deplete these assets, which could happen very fast? Also, all my savings are in a credit union - is NCUSIF less secure than FDIC? Thanks!
Posted by: Vanessa at 09/19/2008 10:44:32 AM
What happens if you have a ROTH IRA through WaMu Financial that's not FDIC insured?
Posted by: Ford Fern at 09/19/2008 11:57:45 AM
My wife and I have a joint savings account in excess of $100,000. Is it possible to "buy" insurance for the difference between what FDIC insures and our balance ? Our savings is with one of the largest banks, so we're not too concerned, but wondered if we can buy insurance for the difference ?
Posted by: Joan Goldwasser at 09/19/2008 05:10:53 PM
Hi, this is Joan Goldwasser, author of this story. In response to Ford Fern: No, you cannot purchase insurance for the difference between your balance and the insured amount. You could, however, move the uninsured amount to another bank where it would be insured. You could also split the account into several accounts: a joint one and two individual ones,which would also increased the amount of money that is insured.
Posted by: Joan Goldwasser at 09/19/2008 05:19:35 PM
Hi, Joan Goldwasser of Kiplinger's Personal Finance here again. This advice is for Vanessa:If your Roth IRA were at the bank, Washington Mutual, it would be insured up to $250,000. If WaMu Financial is a brokerage, your account would be protected by SIPC, the Securities Investor Protection Corp. Regulations require that customers' funds are separate from the assets of the firm so your account should be intact even if the firm fails. The most likely scenario is that another firm would take over your account and the assets would be transferred to it.
Posted by: Joan Goldwasser at 09/19/2008 05:23:40 PM
Charles, This is Joan Goldwasser from Kiplinger's. I think that a general run on the banks is extremely unlikely. People know that their money is protected by FDIC insurance. No one has lost a penny that was FDIC-insured since the FDIC was created. The government will step in and assist the FDIC to make sure it has enough assets to cover any bank failures. It would do the same for the NCUSIF. Credit union insurance is backed by the full faith of the government so they are not going to let depositers lose those funds either.
Posted by: Joan Goldwasser at 09/19/2008 05:29:26 PM
Hi Steve, Joan Goldwasser here, author of this story. The government is not going to let the FDIC run out of funds. The Treasury, the Federal Reserve Board and Congress are trying to create a comprehensive approach to deal with the struggling banks, brokerages and homeowners. They will make sure that taxpayers insured funds are protected.
Posted by: Kat at 09/20/2008 10:41:47 AM
I have a Roth IRA and a regular IRA through Farmers Insurance Co. Are my accounts safe, or am I going to lose everything that I have if this decline continues?
Posted by: KenZablotny at 09/21/2008 03:24:56 PM
Let's also be clear, if your bank is taken over by another bank through the help of the FDIC, your interest rate on current CD's, MMF, etc are not honored at the rate and terms as you agreed to with your previously failed bank. For example...your 4% CD could change to a 2.5% CD for the remainder term. Also, you cannot redeem that CD if there is time left on its term without a penalty. You still get your money, but all terms and conditions change at the new bank's discretion...
Posted by: laurie at 09/22/2008 08:46:00 PM
I understand that retirement accounts at investment firms are protected by SIPC, but is a cash account (money market) also protected there or should it be moved to a commercial bank (to be protected under FDIC)?
Posted by: nancy Ayola at 09/23/2008 12:51:01 PM
all of our money is in an annuity with thrivent financial it is not fdic insured how safe is this?
Posted by: e at 09/25/2008 08:19:38 PM
Is cash held in a money market fund at a brokerage account protected? If protected by SPIC...up to how much$$$? Does anyone have a list of internet banks that are NOT FDIC Insured? Thx
Posted by: MDRW at 10/02/2008 10:14:28 AM
This is directly to Nancy Ayola who asks if her money in an annuity with Thrivant was safe. If it is a fixed annuity it is as safe as safe can be. Not a single person has ever lost money in a fixed annuity in history! Yes, even during the Great Depression. Insurance companies are very heavily regulated and as a result have very few problems with solvency. Case in point is AIG. There fixed annuity holders are safe because those assets were not subject to the risk that got AIG into trouble for the most part. The problem was in a different part of the company. If you have a variable annuity it can be subject to ups and downs in the market meaning you could lose money. Find out what kind of annuity you have if its a fixed annuity or fixed index annuity you can sleep well tonight and every night.
Posted by: Arthur Barr at 10/04/2008 02:33:13 PM
Safety of money answers did not cover the safety of assets (stock & bonds) carried in accounts with stock brokers.I know about SIPC coverage up to $500M, but what about accounts in excess of this amount e.g. $5million?
Posted by: pam at 10/07/2008 11:10:54 PM
My simple ira is with UVEST, a securities firm. It is divided into 3 CDs each under $100,000 at 3 different banks. Are my CDs safe even though a broker made the transaction. And is my money market safe with UVEST ? Thanks
Posted by: Bob at 10/08/2008 11:21:11 PM
You guys left out the third major insurance fund: FSLIC. And believe me the OTS web site is a real bear to get any valid information. You can't really navigate the silly thing and get anything (useful) out of it.
Posted by: Scot at 10/09/2008 08:13:10 PM
You did not mention insurance companies. How about deferred compensation and retirement accounts held by insurance companies?
Posted by: katie at 11/05/2008 08:52:44 AM
My Ira is with American Funds..Cash Management Fund of America-A. THere are no stocks or bonds involved. Investments are not FDIC-insured, nor are they deposits of or guaranteed by a bank or any other entity. My broker insists that my money is safe. What do you think?