Estate Planning
Cut the Lawyer Out of Your Will?
Preset forms are fine for simple plans. But complex estate issues may require a pro.
By Jane Bennett Clark, Senior Associate Editor
From Kiplinger's Personal Finance magazine, March 2010
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You’ve been dragging your feet for ages on writing a will and drawing up other estate-planning documents. Now, to avoid the hassle and expense of hiring a lawyer, you’re considering using online forms to get the job done. Companies such as Nolo, LegalZoom and Rocket Lawyer allow you to do just that. Not only do they provide do-it-yourself estate-planning documents, but they also offer guidance on filling them out and general information on estate-planning issues.
The cost for such off-the-rack estate planning? As little as $50 for a simple will to $220 or so for a package that includes a will and a living trust. That’s cheap compared with the $300 a lawyer might charge for a simple will or the $1,000 or more that a comprehensive estate plan might run you. Still, you get what you pay for, says Danielle Mayoras, an estate-planning attorney and coauthor, with Andrew Mayoras, of Trial & Heirs (Wise Circle; $20 at Amazon.com). Although the products themselves may be sound, one size doesn’t fit all, says Mayoras. “They don’t address as many what-ifs as if you had an attorney with you.”
Last will and testament. Using an online will makes sense if your finances and circumstances are uncomplicated, says Joanna Grossman, a professor at Hofstra University School of Law, but “people don’t know whether they do, in fact, have a simple situation.” If you go the do-it-yourself route, be sure to have the will properly witnessed, says Betsy Simmons, an estate-planning attorney at Nolo. “You’re not done until you do all the things that make it official.”
If your situation is, in fact, more complex -- you want to disinherit a family member, say, or provide for a child with special needs, or shield a large estate from estate taxes -- consult a lawyer. (The federal estate tax was repealed for 2010, but Congress is expected to reinstate it retroactively.)
Revocable living trust. Often used for large or complex estates, this vehicle lets you transfer ownership of your assets to a trust that you control and avoid the public process of probate when you die. If you decide you need a living trust, hire a lawyer. Trusts are, by nature, tailored to particular situations, and they have a lot of complicated rules, warns Grossman.
A lawyer will also have you fund the trust properly, which involves transferring the title on everything -- from the deed on your house to bank and brokerage accounts -- from your name to the trust. Failure to do so (a common rookie mistake) renders the trust inoperable, says David Shulman, an estate-planning attorney in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Durable power of attorney. This document lets you appoint a representative to manage your financial affairs should you become incapacitated. Depending on your intentions -- and state law -- it goes into effect either as soon as the document is executed or if you become mentally incompetent. In contrast, a regular power of attorney ceases to exist if you become incapacitated. It pays to work with a lawyer to make sure you use the right documents and choose the right person for this important job.
Advance directives. You need two state-specific documents:
-- A living will, in which you specify the treatment you want to receive if you cannot speak for yourself.
-- A durable health-care power of attorney, in which you appoint someone to make health-care decisions on your behalf when you cannot.
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Reader Comments (16)
Posted by: William Staman at 02/18/2010 10:21:01 PM
You miss a big point when using an attorney. Have witness's signatures notarized to make your will self proving. Many lawyers set up a retirement fund for themselves and their secretary by witnessing wills, not notarizing their signatures, and then charging a nice fee to testify they they are indeed their signatures, Legal? Yes. Ethical? I think not.
Posted by: Bob at 02/19/2010 01:13:56 PM
I have found that you can shop around and get a price ahead of time. You almost certainly need an attorney but some charge far less than others. Some even offer a discount package. Also, many people may have free legal services available through their employer.
Posted by: Retired CPA at 02/19/2010 05:46:15 PM
A free resource available to everyone with Internet access may include your public library and your state's legal aid website. Here in Colorado our library offers free access to online documents published by commercial companies for last will and testaments, living wills, advance directives, etc., all tailored to Colorado state requriements. Likewise, the Colorado legal aid website provides similar documents tailored to state requirements. Why pay for it when you can get it for free?
Posted by: Ron Doty at 02/19/2010 06:52:30 PM
William's comment is wrong in almost every state. In fact, in some states, a notary acknowledgment on a Will invalidates the Will. "Self-proving" means that the lawyer and the secretary DO NOT have to testify later that the signatures are their own. Moreover, it is highly unlikely a Court will award witness fees to the lawyer and secretary strawpersons set up by William's flawed comment.
Posted by: the duke at 02/20/2010 04:56:43 PM
where there is a will there is a way. my will was probated in 1979, but it is still in court this year.
Posted by: gail at 02/21/2010 08:11:04 AM
I spent well over an hour and a half inputting data for a simple will at Legal Zoom. I even paid extra so I could update the will as many times in a year as needed. A month later, the will still hadn't arrived so I called Legal Zoom. I was informed that there was a glitch and that they had been updating their server at the time I was inputting the information. All the data is completely gone. There was no notice at the site at the time and I NEVER received a notice that things went wrong. Well, at least they will refund my money.but what a huge waste of all that time. I still need a simple will, cant afford the hefty attorney fee, so I'm buying software. This time the information will be input and retained on my own computer, as well as backed up. I can not trust the online process and feel more confident using software.
Posted by: Meredith Fine at 02/21/2010 08:44:47 AM
By all means, do your own will. Then, we lawyers can make a nice living fixing them. This advice is irresponsible. There really is no such thing as a "simple" will. Every family has its own dynamic...
Posted by: Dave Lusignan at 02/21/2010 09:52:39 AM
Re our dinner discussion last night....just read this. Dad
Posted by: LDP at 02/21/2010 03:47:53 PM
"Self-proving" means that the witnesses were present when the maker of the will signed it, and that they believed that the person signing the will was of age, not under duress, and was aware of what they were signing. A notary acknowledegment of the witness signatures is required. When a will is self-proving, the probate court will not require that the witnesses testify that they witnessed the will. I have never heard of a notary acknowledgment invalidating a will. Perhaps Ron could advise in which states a notary acknowledgment is a problem.
Posted by: RK at 02/22/2010 02:46:01 PM
Let me see if I got this right. I get to buy for $50 a software package that may or may not work in the state I live in. The way I see it is let's be cheap on one of the most important documents to protect my heirs. Yup, that's what I wanna do!! Totally crazy.
Posted by: Daynaj at 02/24/2010 02:27:55 PM
I will do my own Will, thank you very much. I have no family. My life insurance is current and I have no debts. It should be a simple matter.
Posted by: anne t at 02/25/2010 01:39:14 PM
Wills can't be notarized, only witnessed - at least in California.
Posted by: kit64 at 02/25/2010 01:42:16 PM
Get a lawyer to do your will. My Uncle used a do-it-yourself will online and it may not be vaild. Had to get a lawyer. A judge has to look at it. It has been over a year now and we still don't have an answer to its validity. His house sits vacant and abandoned, a nearly new, and paid off home.... All of us out of state can't do a thing. Wish he would've had a real attorney draft his will
Posted by: stevenj at 03/03/2010 11:22:09 AM
Several attorneys are now coming on board with virtual law offices. These attorneys help you complete wills, review them, offer advice, send you the will to be notarized all on-line with the same results as several appointments in conventional attorney offices. Check the web for a virtual law office in your state. North Carolina has several.
Posted by: RhiffGek-online at 03/10/2010 01:26:44 PM
lo que yo queria, gracias
Posted by: Mike P at 03/23/2010 12:56:10 PM
What are your thoughts on setting up ALL your assets as Primary & Contingent Beneficiaries.I set up a TRUST in 1994 and every year I get a letter from the law firm telling me of major changes. It appears they want to continue charging to update the MANY pages I already paid for? Last year I converted EVERYTHING to the above beneficiary form. Do you see anything wrong in this settup? thanks, mike